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10 September 2009

 

Letter which I received today regarding New Premises Licence for 3 Winslow Road:

 

9 September 2009

 

The hearing was attended by several residents of Netherton, Cllr Matthew Dalton and Eric Dent.  There were three speakers (interested parties) representing the residents of Netherton.  Cllr Matthew Dalton, Eric Dent and another speaker were each given the opportunity to raise their objections and concerns and ask questions of Mr Alais Alizada (the applicant) of Netherton Food and Wine, 3 Winslow Road.  The panel deliberated for approximately three quarters of an hour. 

 

The decision being that the selling of alcohol has been granted from 0900 - 2200 Monday to Sunday.  You have 21 days to appeal at the Magistrates Court.

 

Read Evening Telegraph, PeterboroughToday.co.uk, article on their website: Peterborough Today

4 September 2009

 

There is a hearing at the Town Hall on Wednesday, 9 September at 9.30am for a New Premises Licence at Netherton Food and Wine, 3 Winslow Road (the old Threshers).  Hopefully many of our Netherton residents are able to attend.  Councillor Matthew Dalton has agreed to speak on behalf of some of the residents.   Eric Dent is also hoping to speak within the maximum period of 10 minutes that we have been given to voice our objections.

4 August 2009

 

 

24 July 2009

 

NETHERTON NEIGHBOURHOOD ASSOCIATION

                                                                                                

The Chief Superintendent

Cambridgeshire Police

Thorpe Wood Police Station

Longthorpe

Peterborough.

 

20th July, 2009,

 

Dear Sir,

Licensing Act 2003 – Application for Licence for the

                                                Sale of Alcohol/Club Premises at 3, Winslow Road

                                                              (The shops), Netherton

 

 

I enclose herewith for information, together with a request for action, a copy of Netherton Neighbourhood Association comments and or objections on behalf of residents living on and around Netherton.   

 

The comments/objections themselves are self explanatory but when the last planning application for the change of use of these premises from Threshers Wine Shop to a Fast Food. Restaurant at Nos 1/3 Winslow there was some doubt about whether the Police had been asked for an opinion.   The whole planning exercise was, in the opinion of many of our residents, one of alleged administrative and professional mishandling, but, eventually a conditional planning permission was given.   Now, we have an application for a reversal of that approved conditional use back to Off Licence.  

 

NNA does not know whether this application requires a new planning application for the change of use back to an Off Licence prior to consideration by the Licensing Committee but NNA would positively ask for more than ‘notes’ ‘passing’ or ‘observation’ acceptance by the Police.   In this instance we would hope for strategically, as well as social behavioural analysis.

 

You will know that your Bretton and other officers have experienced constant difficult duty in this area over the past 10 years or so and residents do not wish to see the situation exacerbated by the opening and closing times suggested in this application..    We are also deeply concerned, but, perhaps we should not be, if the Licensing Authority approve this application, about the influence of this proposal on our three local schools and the possible scenario of attracting people from other parts of the Town who are unable to obtain supplies locally, or when leaving a night club, or a private party, or other place of late night entertainment.  

 

Yours faithfully,

 

Eric Dent

Secretary.

17 July 2009

 

LICENSING APPLICATION FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOL AT 3 WINSLOW ROAD, NETHERTON.

 

NETHERTON NEIGHBOURHOOD ASSOCIATION  -  17 July 2009

 

LICENSING APPLICATION FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOL/CLUB PREMISES AT 3 WINSLOW ROAD NETHERTON. No. 056802 Mr. Alais Alizada

 

Netherton Neighbourhood Association do not object in principle to this application but wish to comment/object upon the detail and in particular the opening hours i.e. daily from 0700hrs until 0200hrs.   NNA note that the application public notices are white and not the regulation blue and are photocopies placed so high up the wall that they are not able to be easily noticed or even read.  Perhaps, this is not the style of Public Notice the Licensing Authority would expect.

 

The Association are of opinion that these opening hours would be detrimental to the residential pattern of the area insofar as they see no reason why the opening hours, as requested, should be 0700hrs and then until the following day at 0200hrs.

 

These hours are totally out of sympathy with opening hours of the existing shops who also sell alcohol but more specifically they may introduce further and, perhaps, more serious public nuisance and disturbance activities.  The area has, for the last 10 years, been subject to disturbance and anti social behaviour by young people and the police are in the shopping area daily so much so that a camera was installed some 7/8 years ago.  NNA hopes that the Police have been asked for an opinion on this application.

 

The shops and residents living close by already experience the hazards and difficulties of parked cars reversing or entering the shopping area, not sufficient car parking places, speeding cars although there is a 30 mph limit, but the core of the Association’s comments/objections are that the sleep patterns of residents living close by will be more than disturbed by the vehicle noise, engines, doors opening and closing from 2200hrs and onwards until 0200hrs and, then possibly, a re-commencement at 0700hrs.   It would be reasonable to add that most residents in that area are working and will need an unbroken period of sleep and quality rest and recreation.

 

NNA must express an opinion that the opening hours are excessive in a residential area and if permission was given then it may mean opening and closing changes for the other shops and businesses abutting and adjoining.    It must be said that no resident can see the need for such hours when the previous Off-Licence opened at 1000hrs and then closed in the evening at 2200hrs.   It is not known why Threshers closed but it is suspected that the economic down turn carried some of the closing criteria and it is reasonable to assume that these proposed hours will not bring in any more business but will increase overheads.

 

The Association are also concerned and alarmed regarding the interpretation of the application insofar as it states ‘for the sale of alcohol/club premises certificate’ and would be obliged if you would explain the words ‘ club premises ’ in this context.

 

NNA is also deeply concerned about the possible exacerbation and further reduction in  quality of life of residents, but, more so for the very young family living immediately above No 3 and for those other residents, some of whom are very elderly, living above the remaining shops. 

 

Recently the premises were the subject of a conditional planning approval for change of use  from off-licence to a fast food/café.  Does this mean that a new planning application needs to be made before the present application can be considered?

16 May 2009

 

I have written to the Chief Planning Officer raising NNA's objections to the planning application:

NETHERTON NEIGHBOURHOOD ASSOCIATION

21, Buckland Close

Peterborough

PE3 9UH

The Chief Planning Officer,

Environmental Services                                                                                                  16th May 2009

Bridge House

Town Bridge

Peterborough

PE1 1HB           

 

Dear Sir,

 

Planning Application (Full) change of use to A3 (Restaurant and Café) and /or A5 (Hot Food Takeaway) at 1-3, Winslow Road, Netherton, Peterborough PE3 9RE

                                                     --------

 Netherton Neighbourhood Association has received your letter dated 11th May received on 15th May giving conditional permission to this application with the utmost anger and dismay that an Authority who are engrossed in the environmental uplifting and re-building of Peterborough can be so insensitive and unsympathetic to our existing social and environmental problems and can still approve, albeit, conditional, an application when there will ensue so much environmental damage

 

This not a well considered addition to Netherton built environment and does not complement or bring any benefit to our surroundings.

 

I enclose a copy of Minutes of  Neighbourhood Police Meeting held on 14th May 2009 which may be helpful now and in the future, for, as you can see, residents working alongside the police are determined to maintain the high residential standards and quality of living which we expect and have become used to over the last decades.

 

We are of opinion that NNA laid all before you in their comments detail of the anticipated or exacerbation of existing problems that would ensue from approval but this and the comments and objections of local residents appear to have fallen upon blinded eyes and deaf ears.

 

It seems positive to NNA that the spirit and intention of Section 17 of the Criminal Justice Act has not been invoked and that no consultation has taken place with other internal and external partnership agencies who, we feel, would have, looking at our local problems that this type of use brings, would have recommended refusal.

 

It appears quite evident to NNA that an estimate of the impact that this activity will have has not been considered.  No consideration has been given to the scale of the problems ensuing from this application

 

A clause in this Act requires community safety to be embedded into the planning policy and operational day to day activity and service delivery of the various Council services, including the police and fire services.   This we understand is a legal duty and we fear that this has not been done. 

 

In order that NNA can answer residents questions with confidence we would welcome your written assurance that all of these consultations with other Partnership Agencies were diligently and exhaustively carried out before this decision was made.

 

Would please also let NNA know if this decision was an Officer or Committee Decision?

 

Yours faithfully,

 

 

 

Eric Dent,

Secretary

Netherton Neighbourhood Association.

 

Copy to:-

Gillian Beasley, Chief Executive, Peterborough City Council

Inspector Dominic Glazebrook and Sgt. J Tinsley, Cambridgeshire Police

Councillors  Mr. Matthew and Mrs. Samantha Dalton.

1 May 2009

I have been informed that I have made a mistake on the 1-3 Winslow Shops.  Numbers 1-3 refer only to the ground floor (the Off Licence) and does not relate to the flat above. 

16 April 2009

 

DRAFT

 

09/00331/FUL for change of use to A3 (restaurant and Café) and/or A5 (Hot Food Takeaway) at 1-3, Winslow Road, Netherton PE3 9RE

 

Netherton Neighbourhood Association comments on the above application range very widely.

 

We understand that No. 1 is the flat above the shop and No 3 is the unused shop.  In this circumstance we wonder to what use No 1 is to be put and sincerely hope that it will not be used as a food preparation kitchen and the on the upper floor used as living accommodation as appears to be the case in Town Centre Take away Food establishments.

 

In the first instance we would bring to your attention, with emphasis, that there are already three outlets for hot food within 20 metres of the proposal.  The Fish and Chip Shop, the Sandwich Shop which has a small eating area.  Premier Foods shop has a food machine.

 

There are residential homes above this shop.  It would be necessary to provide planning conditions primarily for the safety of this, and other, homes.  Food cooking smells must be controlled or eliminated.  The disposal of wastage is already a problem in this small shopping precinct and would be seriously exacerbated by this proposal if approved.  The city council does its very best but cannot eliminate the detritus of 1250 students from Jack Hunt School and 350 pupils from Thorpe Primary and others all buying food, drinks and sweets and then dropping the wrappings.  Waste food not cleared every day or more than once a day brings vermin

 

We would also draw to your attention a similar situation in Leytonstone, East London where under Waltham Forest Council have issued a closure order under guide lines banning the sale of fast food near educational establishments.

 

Access to the rear of the property and the logistics of waste clearance are not good.  The area is used as a parking area for cars, delivery vehicles using the shops and of course access and parking to residential properties.  We recommend that a staff member of the City Engineers Dept surveys the site.

 

The area is already a concern for the police and local residents and did at one time have a Dispersal Order placed upon it.  In the last two years or so and with constant twice daily police supervision the nuisance has been controlled and nearly, except for isolated incidents, eradicated.  This proposal would, it is suggested, bring back this nuisance.  We sincerely hope that the Police Architect and the City Engineer Traffic will be more than diligent in his approach to this proposal both from the point of view expressed above and from traffic movement and parking of traffic and of course from  vehicle noise nuisance and accident prevention.  This is a very busy area and on the cusp of an extraordinarily busy rat run T junction.

 

Hours of opening and closing are of paramount importance.  The Fish and Chip Shop closes at 2000hrs and the proprietor puts out waste bins and clears up the area after he has closed his shop.  We would hope for similar opening and closing control in this application.  If this proposal is approved we ask that the supply of adequate, indestructible, but, easily accessed little bins be provided and emptied by the shop owner or tenant on a daily and evening basis and that the area be cleaned, swept, and maintained tidy.

 

We suggest that the parking traffic control hours, presently in place, be given re-consideration in the light of increased and longer stay vehicles.  We envisage that food may be bought and eaten in vehicles, which will extend the existing waiting periods.  We also believe that cartons will be dropped from vehicle windows and the vehicle driven off.

 

The Police Camera opposite the shops has never functioned to any satisfaction and it has been said that is because of the low quality if lighting within the shopping precinct.  We are aware that this lowering of lighting was with the hope that in the dark misbehaviour would lessen but this has not really happened.  If the proposal is approved we would ask for increased lighting lumens but at the same time eliminate any nuisance to residents living above or adjacent to the shops.

 

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