10 September 2009
Letter which I
received today regarding New Premises Licence for 3 Winslow Road:




9 September 2009
The hearing was
attended by several residents of Netherton, Cllr Matthew Dalton and Eric
Dent. There were three speakers (interested parties) representing the
residents of Netherton. Cllr Matthew Dalton, Eric Dent and another
speaker were each given the
opportunity to raise their objections and concerns and ask questions of Mr Alais Alizada
(the applicant) of Netherton Food and Wine, 3 Winslow Road. The panel
deliberated for approximately three quarters of an hour.
The decision being
that the selling of alcohol has been granted from 0900 - 2200 Monday to
Sunday. You have 21 days to appeal at the Magistrates Court.
Read Evening
Telegraph, PeterboroughToday.co.uk, article on their website:
Peterborough Today

4 September 2009
There is a hearing
at the Town Hall on Wednesday, 9 September at 9.30am for a New Premises Licence
at Netherton Food and Wine, 3 Winslow Road (the old Threshers).
Hopefully many of our Netherton residents are able to attend.
Councillor Matthew Dalton has agreed to speak on behalf of some of the
residents. Eric Dent is also hoping to speak within the maximum
period of 10 minutes that we have been given to voice our objections.

4 August 2009



24 July 2009
NETHERTON NEIGHBOURHOOD ASSOCIATION
The Chief Superintendent
Cambridgeshire Police
Thorpe Wood Police Station
Longthorpe
Peterborough.
20th July, 2009,
Dear Sir,
Licensing Act 2003 – Application for Licence for the
Sale of Alcohol/Club
Premises at 3, Winslow Road
(The shops),
Netherton
I enclose herewith for information, together with a request for action, a
copy of Netherton Neighbourhood Association comments and or objections on
behalf of residents living on and around Netherton.
The comments/objections themselves are self explanatory but when the last
planning application for the change of use of these premises from Threshers
Wine Shop to a Fast Food. Restaurant at Nos 1/3 Winslow there was some doubt
about whether the Police had been asked for an opinion. The whole planning
exercise was, in the opinion of many of our residents, one of alleged
administrative and professional mishandling, but, eventually a conditional
planning permission was given. Now, we have an application for a reversal
of that approved conditional use back to Off Licence.
NNA does not know whether this application requires a new planning
application for the change of use back to an Off Licence prior to
consideration by the Licensing Committee but NNA would positively ask for
more than ‘notes’ ‘passing’ or ‘observation’ acceptance by the Police. In
this instance we would hope for strategically, as well as social behavioural
analysis.
You will know that your Bretton and other officers have experienced constant
difficult duty in this area over the past 10 years or so and residents do
not wish to see the situation exacerbated by the opening and closing times
suggested in this application.. We are also deeply concerned, but,
perhaps we should not be, if the Licensing Authority approve this
application, about the influence of this proposal on our three local schools
and the possible scenario of attracting people from other parts of the Town
who are unable to obtain supplies locally, or when leaving a night club, or
a private party, or other place of late night entertainment.
Yours faithfully,
Eric Dent
Secretary.

17 July 2009
LICENSING APPLICATION FOR THE
SALE
OF ALCOHOL AT 3 WINSLOW ROAD, NETHERTON.
NETHERTON NEIGHBOURHOOD ASSOCIATION - 17 July 2009
LICENSING APPLICATION FOR THE
SALE
OF ALCOHOL/CLUB PREMISES AT 3 WINSLOW ROAD NETHERTON. No. 056802 Mr. Alais
Alizada
Netherton Neighbourhood Association do not object in principle to this
application but wish to comment/object upon the detail and in particular the
opening hours i.e. daily from 0700hrs until 0200hrs. NNA note that the
application public notices are white and not the regulation blue and are
photocopies placed so high up the wall that they are not able to be easily
noticed or even read. Perhaps, this is not the style of Public Notice the
Licensing Authority would expect.
The
Association are of opinion that these opening hours would be detrimental to
the residential pattern of the area insofar as they see no reason why the
opening hours, as requested, should be 0700hrs and then until the following
day at 0200hrs.
These
hours are totally out of sympathy with opening hours of the existing shops
who also sell alcohol but more specifically they may introduce further and,
perhaps, more serious public nuisance and disturbance activities. The area
has, for the last 10 years, been subject to disturbance and anti social
behaviour by young people and the police are in the shopping area daily so
much so that a camera was installed some 7/8 years ago. NNA hopes that the
Police have been asked for an opinion on this application.
The
shops and residents living close by already experience the hazards and
difficulties of parked cars reversing or entering the shopping area, not
sufficient car parking places, speeding cars although there is a 30 mph
limit, but the core of the Association’s comments/objections are that the
sleep patterns of residents living close by will be more than disturbed by
the vehicle noise, engines, doors opening and closing from 2200hrs and
onwards until 0200hrs and, then possibly, a re-commencement at 0700hrs. It
would be reasonable to add that most residents in that area are working and
will need an unbroken period of sleep and quality rest and recreation.
NNA
must express an opinion that the opening hours are excessive in a
residential area and if permission was given then it may mean opening and
closing changes for the other shops and businesses abutting and
adjoining. It must be said that no resident can see the need for such
hours when the previous Off-Licence opened at 1000hrs and then closed in the
evening at 2200hrs. It is not known why Threshers closed but it is
suspected that the economic down turn carried some of the closing criteria
and it is reasonable to assume that these proposed hours will not bring in
any more business but will increase overheads.
The
Association are also concerned and alarmed regarding the interpretation of
the application insofar as it states ‘for the sale of alcohol/club premises
certificate’ and would be obliged if you would explain the words ‘ club
premises ’ in this context.
NNA is
also deeply concerned about the possible exacerbation and further reduction
in quality of life of residents, but, more so for the very young family
living immediately above No 3 and for those other residents, some of whom
are very elderly, living above the remaining shops.
Recently the premises were the subject of a conditional planning approval
for change of use from off-licence to a fast food/café. Does this mean
that a new planning application needs to be made before the present
application can be considered?

16 May 2009
I have written to
the Chief Planning Officer raising NNA's objections to the planning
application:
NETHERTON NEIGHBOURHOOD ASSOCIATION
21,
Buckland Close
Peterborough
PE3 9UH
The Chief Planning Officer,
Environmental Services
16th May 2009
Bridge
House
Town
Bridge
Peterborough
PE1
1HB
Dear
Sir,
Planning Application (Full) change of use
to A3 (Restaurant and Café) and /or A5 (Hot Food Takeaway) at 1-3,
Winslow
Road, Netherton, Peterborough PE3 9RE
--------
Netherton Neighbourhood Association has
received your letter dated 11th May received on 15th
May giving conditional permission to this application with the utmost anger
and dismay that an Authority who are engrossed in the environmental
uplifting and re-building of Peterborough can be so insensitive and
unsympathetic to our existing social and environmental problems and can
still approve, albeit, conditional, an application when there will ensue so
much environmental damage
This not a well considered addition to
Netherton built environment and does not complement or bring any benefit to
our surroundings.
I enclose a copy of Minutes of
Neighbourhood Police Meeting held on 14th May 2009 which may be
helpful now and in the future, for, as you can see, residents working
alongside the police are determined to maintain the high residential
standards and quality of living which we expect and have become used to over
the last decades.
We are of opinion that NNA laid all
before you in their comments detail of the anticipated or exacerbation of
existing problems that would ensue from approval but this and the comments
and objections of local residents appear to have fallen upon blinded eyes
and deaf ears.
It seems positive to NNA that the spirit
and intention of Section 17 of the Criminal Justice Act has not been invoked
and that no consultation has taken place with other internal and external
partnership agencies who, we feel, would have, looking at our local problems
that this type of use brings, would have recommended refusal.
It appears quite evident to NNA that an
estimate of the impact that this activity will have has not been
considered. No consideration has been given to the scale of the problems
ensuing from this application
A clause in this Act requires community
safety to be embedded into the planning policy and operational day to day
activity and service delivery of the various Council services, including the
police and fire services. This we understand is a legal duty and we fear
that this has not been done.
In order that NNA can answer residents
questions with confidence we would welcome your written assurance that all
of these consultations with other Partnership Agencies were diligently and
exhaustively carried out before this decision was made.
Would please also let NNA know if this
decision was an Officer or Committee Decision?
Yours faithfully,
Eric Dent,
Secretary
Netherton Neighbourhood Association.
Copy to:-
Gillian Beasley, Chief Executive,
Peterborough City Council
Inspector Dominic Glazebrook and Sgt. J
Tinsley, Cambridgeshire Police
Councillors Mr. Matthew and Mrs.
Samantha Dalton.

1 May 2009
I have been
informed that I have made a mistake on the 1-3 Winslow Shops. Numbers 1-3
refer only to the ground floor (the Off Licence) and does not relate to the
flat above.

16 April 2009
DRAFT
09/00331/FUL for change of use to A3 (restaurant and Café) and/or A5 (Hot
Food Takeaway) at 1-3,
Winslow Road,
Netherton
PE3 9RE
Netherton Neighbourhood Association comments on the above application range
very widely.
We
understand that No. 1 is the flat above the shop and No 3 is the unused
shop. In this circumstance we wonder to what use No 1 is to be put and
sincerely hope that it will not be used as a food preparation kitchen and
the on the upper floor used as living accommodation as appears to be the
case in Town Centre Take away Food establishments.
In the
first instance we would bring to your attention, with emphasis, that there
are already three outlets for hot food within 20 metres of the proposal.
The Fish and Chip Shop, the Sandwich Shop which has a small eating area.
Premier Foods shop has a food machine.
There
are residential homes above this shop. It would be necessary to provide
planning conditions primarily for the safety of this, and other, homes.
Food cooking smells must be controlled or eliminated. The disposal of
wastage is already a problem in this small shopping precinct and would be
seriously exacerbated by this proposal if approved. The city council does
its very best but cannot eliminate the detritus of 1250 students from Jack
Hunt School and 350 pupils from Thorpe Primary and others all buying food,
drinks and sweets and then dropping the wrappings. Waste food not cleared
every day or more than once a day brings vermin
We
would also draw to your attention a similar situation in Leytonstone, East
London where under Waltham Forest Council have issued a closure order under
guide lines banning the sale of fast food near educational establishments.
Access
to the rear of the property and the logistics of waste clearance are not
good. The area is used as a parking area for cars, delivery vehicles using
the shops and of course access and parking to residential properties. We
recommend that a staff member of the City Engineers Dept surveys the site.
The
area is already a concern for the police and local residents and did at one
time have a Dispersal Order placed upon it. In the last two years or so and
with constant twice daily police supervision the nuisance has been
controlled and nearly, except for isolated incidents, eradicated. This
proposal would, it is suggested, bring back this nuisance. We sincerely
hope that the Police Architect and the City Engineer Traffic will be more
than diligent in his approach to this proposal both from the point of view
expressed above and from traffic movement and parking of traffic and of
course from vehicle noise nuisance and accident prevention. This is a very
busy area and on the cusp of an extraordinarily busy rat run T junction.
Hours
of opening and closing are of paramount importance. The Fish and Chip Shop
closes at 2000hrs and the proprietor puts out waste bins and clears up the
area after he has closed his shop. We would hope for similar opening and
closing control in this application. If this proposal is approved we ask
that the supply of adequate, indestructible, but, easily accessed little
bins be provided and emptied by the shop owner or tenant on a daily and
evening basis and that the area be cleaned, swept, and maintained tidy.
We
suggest that the parking traffic control hours, presently in place, be given
re-consideration in the light of increased and longer stay vehicles. We
envisage that food may be bought and eaten in vehicles, which will extend
the existing waiting periods. We also believe that cartons will be dropped
from vehicle windows and the vehicle driven off.
The
Police Camera opposite the shops has never functioned to any satisfaction
and it has been said that is because of the low quality if lighting within
the shopping precinct. We are aware that this lowering of lighting was with
the hope that in the dark misbehaviour would lessen but this has not really
happened. If the proposal is approved we would ask for increased lighting
lumens but at the same time eliminate any nuisance to residents living above
or adjacent to the shops.
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